Pole Vault "no-no" list

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Unread postby newPVer » Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:40 am

never let go of the pole when your in trouble. like some people on my team used to do it all the time, the pole would go flying because they;d let go when its bent. dumb..

just hold on, you can see where your gonna land controlled, and at least you'll never land in the box...
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Re: I have a couple of them for you

Unread postby Eemerica2s » Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:38 pm

keelowman wrote:Through doing and coaching there are a few thing that are encountered that are PV "no-no's" #1 never monkey grip (beginners usually do this) this can lead to broken wrists. #2 never whip you head back at take off (this makes you position in air different and you dont know where you are)
#3 long last strides, the penultimate step is important and needs to be dialed in for maximum performance. Late last steps can lead to a really sore back or other worse things.

Would you mind explaining those three? I don't understand them that much (mainly 1 and 3)

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Unread postby newPVer » Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:39 pm

idk about his #1, but regarding #3, your steps. you run should start with nice and easy but powerful strides out of the back and gradually gaining speed. you last few steps need to be the quickest and if done correctly, will be a little closer together than your steps in the middle of your run. These quick steps will help you get that last step down, your plant up, and your trail leg swinging.

good luck with that

anyone else have no-no's?
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Unread postby Powervaulter » Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:10 pm

I have two thoughts on this thread:

1. It's a good idea to brainstorm technical flaws, and to find ways to correct them.

2. I have a problem with the word "punishment" for obvious reasons. While I know that most coaches are not literally looking to punish their athletes for making technical mistakes, even using the word in practice is inappropriate. :no: The coach is essentially saying: "You're doing this wrong, so I'm going to punish you by making you do it right!" :confused:

I have several suggestions for the coach in this scenario:
-start with some positive reinforcement: "Here's what I like about your jump..."
-address the technical flaw
-make some relevant suggestions as to drills (not running laps to correct running through) for the improvement of this technical aspect, and don't call it punishment... maybe call it strategies for vaulting mastery
-when the athlete corrects the mistake, get all over it with the praise (everyone loves that)

My motto is like my blood type: B+. ;)

That being said, certain mistakes warrant certain consequences, such as sitting out the rest of the practice for throwing a pole down on the ground!

My apologies for taking the thread off on a tangent, but I think it is an important point to make.

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Unread postby fastpich19 » Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:34 am

wacky274 wrote:got one for ya....if you pull your arms into your body at the plant, you run a lap (or some distance) carrying the pole horizontally over your head with both arms straight up. They'll get real sick of running if they keeping pulling.


Perfect, That is what I do wrong, I will try doing what you said.
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Unread postby SlickVT » Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:39 pm

I don't see how if someone is struggling at practice, running a lap would help them. That would do nothing but make them tired and cause more unnatural things to happen to compensate. Running a lap for a technical flaw is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. Don't do that.
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Unread postby CrossBarHOpper » Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:44 pm

Powervaulter wrote:I have two thoughts on this thread:

1. It's a good idea to brainstorm technical flaws, and to find ways to correct them.

2. I have a problem with the word "punishment" for obvious reasons. While I know that most coaches are not literally looking to punish their athletes for making technical mistakes, even using the word in practice is inappropriate. :no: The coach is essentially saying: "You're doing this wrong, so I'm going to punish you by making you do it right!" :confused:
-make some relevant suggestions as to drills (not running laps to correct running through) for the improvement of this technical aspect, and don't call it punishment... maybe call it strategies for vaulting mastery
-when the athlete corrects the mistake, get all over it with the praise (everyone loves that)

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I totally agree punishment in polevaulting just seems crazy. running a lap for running through is just gonnna make someone more tired and then run through more often so then polevaulting practice would become runnning practice.
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Unread postby souleman » Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:46 pm

98% NO TAPS from coaches. Tons of threads on this that's why I said 98%

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Unread postby 2-15-46 » Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:12 pm

xtremevaulter wrote:
swtvault wrote:Dont raise your grip more than 3 inches at a time


I was always told to move your grip up about the width of a palm


What's the width of your palm??
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Unread postby snow26 » Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:47 pm

[u]don't hold higher than you should,[/u] the freshman mistake, they always think thay can hold higher, but they are to slow and don't know how to bend the pole.
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Unread postby un poco loca saltar » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:47 pm

1. dont EVER let go of the pole unless u know u are over the mats. if u stall out at the top and arent going to go anywhere, hold onto the pole! if u dont, ur going to get the worse punishment u can expect: something along the lines of a twisted ankle, a broken bone or two, etc.

2. dont EVER EVER EVER move up a pole without your coach's permission and him being there the first time u use it!


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