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Unread postby bjvando » Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:11 pm

very interesting.....so minus boards, but put a roof over head lock the back door behind the pit, take away ANY possibilites of any sort of 'head-wind'.... and that can count as outdoors....

once again, just curious, but for a national record, i'm sure it has to be measured and all that, but WHO actually has to do that... just a USATF certified official? any old certified official? or does there have to be an IAAF certified official? ( if that even exists, i'm not educated on the officals status)

--this is no dig on Yoo Kim, im' just curious on how the rule is interpreted and if the spirit of that rule is upheld-- yoo's the man! :yes:
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Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:20 pm

bjvando wrote:once again, just curious, but for a national record, i'm sure it has to be measured and all that, but WHO actually has to do that... just a USATF certified official? any old certified official? or does there have to be an IAAF certified official? ( if that even exists, i'm not educated on the officals status)


For National records, it just depends on each federation. My teammate Peggy broke the Guatemalan record a few times while jumping for Lindenwood, and her federation didn't ask too many questions, just a copy of the official results.

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Unread postby LHSpolevault » Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:59 pm

I love this dude's name! hahaha

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Unread postby achtungpv » Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:00 pm

bjvando wrote:very interesting.....so minus boards, but put a roof over head lock the back door behind the pit, take away ANY possibilites of any sort of 'head-wind'.... and that can count as outdoors....
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The IAAF doesn't recognize indoor & outdoor WR's anymore...just WR's. The only one I know of still on the books is Bubka's since his was the only one with a better indoor mark than an outdoor mark...on that note, to break the WR you'll have to jump 6.16 even though the "outdoor WR" is 6.14...confusing but that'll get the i6.15 off the books. But why the IAAF insists of keeping separate indoor & outdoor performance lists hurts my head...

Also, the IAAF doesn't certify or track national records. It's up to each individual federation and most of those DO keep separate indoor & outdoor records. AAGGGHHH!
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Unread postby BruceFlorman » Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:59 am

achtungpv wrote:The IAAF doesn't recognize indoor & outdoor WR's anymore...just WR's.

I could certainly be wrong about this, but I'm under the impression that the IAAF does recognize two kinds of records: "indoor" and "absolute". An indoor clearance can still be a record even if someone has gone higher outdoors, but an outdoor clearance can only be recognized as an absolute record. This was why Stacy's 4.84 in the Spring of '04 wasn't recognized as a WR, even though no woman had ever gone higher outdoors before â€â€


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