What next?

[altius]

Agapit has probably taken time out to meditate on the fact that although he is - in my opinion - one of the top two or three people in the world in terms of understanding this great event - it seems that he has little credibility in the USA.

With the saying "A prophet is without honour in his own country" in mind, this is strange because as far as I know he does not have a green card far less citizenship in the US and therefore qualifies as a prophet in another country - which by implication means he should be heeded.

Perhaps people are frightened of him or perhaps he has not played the game of small p politics very well. Whatever the reason I do not believe that his talents have been fully utilised in the US.

I am just glad that when he lived in Adelaide we tried to pump him dry. Never forget the old saw "If your enemy has a good idea ,steal it". He was our friend so he gave his ideas freely but if i were his enemy I would certainly try to steal his knowledge. Hopefully i would be generous enough to credit him with what i took - because this is another problem i suspect he faces.

I just hope he comes back to this forum for your sakes.

"Wisdom can come from any place, any time and in any language."

[altius]

Incidentally LVPVC, have YOU read the article referred to, on beginnertobubka.com? With all due modesty I suggest that it may turn out to be one of the seminal articles on the vault. Of course I could have pretended - as many in our field do - that it was all my own idea - but I credited Agapit with the initial concept. Problem was when he wrote his paper a few years ago he could hardly speak English - even American English - far less write it.

He asked me to help edit it but since i didnt understand what he was on about at the time I couldnt help him much! Hence the need for clarification of a concept which really does explain the effectiveness of the Petrov/Bubka model vis a vis other approaches.

Reflecting on his ideas as i wrote BTB I came up with a way of explaining the concept outlined in the article mentioned - unfortunately too late to go into BTB hence the posting on the site where i hope to put up more ideas from "The Lord of the spoon". In fact i may sign him to an exclusive contract so he does not post in this forum.

[Mecham]

[Mecham]

So.... In my last meet they told me that i cleared 11'6 by 4 feet. if that helps.

[agapit]

* Sok kicsi sokra megy.
o Lots of small (activities/gestures/thoughts/feelings) will amount to a lot

Yup. So in pole vaulting terms, lots of small things done right will add up to a great jump!

Altius, are these cleaver people or what?

[Mecham]

Okay i have a video. Its not online yet, we just filmed it today. I am on a broken off 14' 145. The bungee is at 14'. I get a lot more vertical on my other pole but i blow through it a lot. But anyway, I know you guys tell me to vault on a cross bar, but we have districts tomorrow so i was only allowed to take a few jumps. I brush the bungee a little but thats all. So.... I'll try to get the video asap!

[souleman]

Yes, get the video up and go jump 14' tomorrow night! Good luck, have a good meet and most importantly HAVE FUN! Later.....Mike

[Mecham]

I only jumped 13' but it qualified me for regionals

[altius]

Just returning to the original problem -got diverted a bit there - what is often forgotten in the rush to do drills is that the mind/body nexus has a remarkable ability to solve its own problems if given a chance.

This is why. in my view, vault training should include hundreds of jumps over a bar - however if you want to do hundreds you are forced to use a shot run -2 - 6 steps for example. These hundreds of jumps give the brain/body a chance to try the whole activity -even if slightly reduced in scale - and amazingly it can begin to solve the problems without needing drills. This is normal human behaviour which tends to be good at solving real problems - like how do you jump over a bar using a pole to land safely on the pad -turning as you go over the bar.

Always that remember drills are only a means to an end -to reduce the complexity of the task so you can do it in safety. However an overemphasis on the parts may prevent you from ever doing the 'whole' really well.

"Learning can only be done by the learner - not by some kind of transmission process from the teacher". Now who said that first ? It wasnt me -but i wish it had been!