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Pole Vault History/Mythology 101

Unread postby Russ » Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:36 pm

Several people have written about pole vault history. It turns out that there are some very ancient references.

Here's one that I've never seen anybody mention before. I apologize but I majored in Latin in college (UNC-Chapel Hill) and I married a Latin teacher. In fact, I have to give credit where credit is due, Nina, my wife, found this one, and I'm tickled pink about it.

Ovid (Publius Ovidius Naso) was a Roman poet born about 43 B.C. He's most famous for his work called The Metamorphoses...a work that's got tons of Greek and Roman mythology in it. If you've ever studied Mythology, chances are you've heard of The Metamorphoses (Edith Hamilton's book uses Ovid as a primary source).

In Ovid's Metamorphoses, Book 2 lines 785-86, the Latin text says:

...haud plura locuta/
fugit et inpressa tellurem reppulit hasta
(785-786)

The standard English translation by Rolfe Humphries says:

She [Minerva] said no more, but with the spear as
lever,
Spurning the loathsome ground, took off for Heaven.




All I can say is, now that is some vault! :yes: ;)
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Unread postby Bruce Caldwell » Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:54 pm

SO female spear vaulting way back LOL

GOOD stuff thanks for sharing it who says this site does not have the air of cultural education?
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Unread postby vaultmd » Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:48 pm

Knowing Ovid's habit of writing R-rated poetry, there might be a less literal interpretation of that event ;)

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Unread postby balletomane » Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:54 pm

That's great. (I happen to have a keen interest in classics.) I'm interested to see if there are other such references in the work of Ovid's contemporaries.
Did you happen to see the performance of Metamorphoses at the Hartford Stage?

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Unread postby superchau88 » Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:24 am

vaultmd wrote:Knowing Ovid's habit of writing R-rated poetry, there might be a less literal interpretation of that event ;)


don't you mean X-rated ;)

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Unread postby vaultmd » Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:09 pm

Hey. Ratings systems have changed over the last 2,000 years. ;)

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Unread postby vaultmd » Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:12 pm

P.S.: I'm glad we have so many members who are literate in Latin and/or Greek or at least familiar with classical studies. I was CA state president for the Junior Classical League when I was younger.

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Bragging rights

Unread postby Carolina Extreme » Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:49 pm

So.... does this mean women vaulted first? :( Does Minerva get the bragging rights as the first vaulter ever? Say it isn't so!!! :crying:

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Re: Bragging rights

Unread postby Scott Go Pre » Sat Sep 04, 2004 2:22 am

Carolina Extreme wrote:So.... does this mean women vaulted first? :( Does Minerva get the bragging rights as the first vaulter ever? Say it isn't so!!! :crying:

LOL :D


If it is true, then all those t-shirts that say, Men created Pole Vault, Women perfected it would be wrong. It would actually then be Pole Vault Women created it, Men perfected it! ;)
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Re: Bragging rights

Unread postby toki » Sat Sep 04, 2004 11:01 am

If it is true, then all those t-shirts that say, Men created Pole Vault, Women perfected it would be wrong. It would actually then be Pole Vault Women created it, Men perfected it! ;)[/quote]

Yeah i would have to go with that women perfected it scott. :)
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