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Petrovs info
Hey all,
As an ancient coach here in the NW I need to let you guys know that Andjei brought all this info to America in the 80's. I have been using his testing procedure for determining areas of training needs and his development plan since I first started to hang out with him in '85.
I presented his athletic testing evaluations at the Reno Summit in about 1995 to 3 groups of about 200 people. Still have the tests. haven't seen em used since.
They really do work. If you plug in athletes I have worked with in the past you will see the development system they were under (David Lemen in Dec). The system always works, the results may differ based on the talent of the athlete (learning curve for you teacher types).
My belief about the 6 meter jump in America is that we don't have a developmental system to provide the opportunities for it.
Thats ok tho. No one ever asks my opinion...They just tell everyone how they are gonna break em down and build em up again.
Just my thoughts and if i piss you off, oh well.
Rick
As an ancient coach here in the NW I need to let you guys know that Andjei brought all this info to America in the 80's. I have been using his testing procedure for determining areas of training needs and his development plan since I first started to hang out with him in '85.
I presented his athletic testing evaluations at the Reno Summit in about 1995 to 3 groups of about 200 people. Still have the tests. haven't seen em used since.
They really do work. If you plug in athletes I have worked with in the past you will see the development system they were under (David Lemen in Dec). The system always works, the results may differ based on the talent of the athlete (learning curve for you teacher types).
My belief about the 6 meter jump in America is that we don't have a developmental system to provide the opportunities for it.
Thats ok tho. No one ever asks my opinion...They just tell everyone how they are gonna break em down and build em up again.
Just my thoughts and if i piss you off, oh well.
Rick
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Re: Petrovs info
baggettpv wrote: No one ever asks my opinion...
I do! You're the man
I'd definitely have to say that Bubka would have been pretty close, with 9.94 m/sec at the box. That kind of takeoff speed is blistering, to say the least. That is also part of the reason why SB, at 183 cm (6' 1") tall, and weighing 80 kg (176 lb), could get on a 5.20/10.6 pole.
Hysong ran 10.29 100m in Flagstaff, Arizona, in July of 2000 before the Sydney Olympics. I do not know if it was hand timed, but Nick is fast.
Toby is very fast, but I doubt he is faster than Bubka, as his height and weight are almost exactly the same is Bubka's, and yet he vaults on a 5.10/12.6. Of course, Toby vaults on Pacer Carbon FX poles, which utilize a spiral wrap, while the UCS-Spirit poles that Bubka vaulted on utilize a spin wrap. This difference in wrap could make for a discrepancy in the flex ratings (though not the lengths) and technique might explain the rest. (Toby hasn't yet been vaulting as long as Bubka had when he set the world record. Plus, Toby currently has no coach. Thus, his technique is not yet as polished as it probably will be down the line.) So, Toby could conceivably be that fast, and if he is not, he is young and has plenty of time to get faster.
However, as of right now, I think Bubka has to be the fastest. A speed of 9.94 m/sec at the box when you're carrying a 5.20/10.6 in your hands is hard to beat. Besides, Bubka's world record of 6.15 m and his 44 career jumps over 6 m or higher speak for themselves. The next person down, Tarasov, has only jumped 6 m or more 7 times (as has Hartwig).
As for the fastest vaulter currently vaulting, I am not sure. Toby would be up there, though.
Hysong ran 10.29 100m in Flagstaff, Arizona, in July of 2000 before the Sydney Olympics. I do not know if it was hand timed, but Nick is fast.
Toby is very fast, but I doubt he is faster than Bubka, as his height and weight are almost exactly the same is Bubka's, and yet he vaults on a 5.10/12.6. Of course, Toby vaults on Pacer Carbon FX poles, which utilize a spiral wrap, while the UCS-Spirit poles that Bubka vaulted on utilize a spin wrap. This difference in wrap could make for a discrepancy in the flex ratings (though not the lengths) and technique might explain the rest. (Toby hasn't yet been vaulting as long as Bubka had when he set the world record. Plus, Toby currently has no coach. Thus, his technique is not yet as polished as it probably will be down the line.) So, Toby could conceivably be that fast, and if he is not, he is young and has plenty of time to get faster.
However, as of right now, I think Bubka has to be the fastest. A speed of 9.94 m/sec at the box when you're carrying a 5.20/10.6 in your hands is hard to beat. Besides, Bubka's world record of 6.15 m and his 44 career jumps over 6 m or higher speak for themselves. The next person down, Tarasov, has only jumped 6 m or more 7 times (as has Hartwig).
As for the fastest vaulter currently vaulting, I am not sure. Toby would be up there, though.
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This Guy has to be the fastest cat i have ever seen on a runway in person ever, he runs like a 20 200 time, and is sickening on the runway, he jumped 18 at colvis, real cool guy too. but he isnt a huge guy but he is one some big poles for his size, like 16 200s but with his speed and plant he rocks them, i was impressed, remember his name it will be coming up in the future trust me on that one
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TreyDECA will be among the fastest. He's already run in the 10.40's, and will be in the 10.20's within the next two years.
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Re: Fastest Vaulter
DecHep wrote:TreyDECA will be among the fastest. He's already run in the 10.40's, and will be in the 10.20's within the next two years.
Yeah can't wait to see how high he vaults when he learns how to
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Items of Interest
Bubka weight might have been 80kg early in his career but you will also see it listed at 85kg - so that is hard to compare. Bubka also set his early records on a Pacer pole with spiral wraps and switched when the company was sold and his main contact help start Spirit. Legend has it he switched only after they said they could build a similar pole.
Toby I believe also has some poles bigger than 12.6 -
Flex number only give part of the equation - that is how the pole behaves in the initial part of the bend
Speed at take-off is what counts - while 100m speed is a good indicator - as Mikepv1 said - near 10m/s at take-off is a huge part of it
Toby I believe also has some poles bigger than 12.6 -
Flex number only give part of the equation - that is how the pole behaves in the initial part of the bend
Speed at take-off is what counts - while 100m speed is a good indicator - as Mikepv1 said - near 10m/s at take-off is a huge part of it
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