KirkB wrote:Lax PV wrote: Split wrote: Lax PV wrote: ... PS... I would not suggest doing "3-4-5 hundred meter ladder, took 8 long jumps, vaulted for an hour, and then ran a mile all in the same day and barely got tired" in one day ever again.
That was very foolish.
I wouldn't beat yourself up about it. Training is going well now, so obviously you go through it. If you don't learn from it, now THAT would be foolish. Best of luck to you, once you get back on the runway... let us know if you start blowin bars up
Lax, What would you recommend?
Split doesn't say how many jumps he took in that hour, and maybe the mile was his warmdown.
However, the 3-4-500m ladder sounds excessive. Instead, I'd reduce the distance significantly, and do them
after vaulting - to ensure quality jumps. Split, are you on the 4x400 team too?
And doing both LJ and PV in the same day is a bit much, I suppose. If you
had to do them both, maybe do PV first, since quality PV technique training is more reliant on fresh legs? i.e. You're not going to stall out in LJ if you're tired, and your technique is off a bit!
Kirk
Being a multi event high school athlete can be a very difficult thing to master. I have seen a lot of drills for both vault nd long jump that have both shown to be productive, while only working one or maybe two components of the events. While I will concede that the mile run could very well be a cool down type of effort, the bigger concern I have is the 3-4-5 ladder, coupled with both LJ and PV. When I was in HS, I had to run as well, but ordinarily I ran on days that I did not vault. Once in a while I would work on LJ, but most of the time it was nothing more than a plyo workout that could be good for any power associated event. If the LJ is something that you train to compete in, it obviously needs more attention than I ever gave it. I would suggest choosing 1 event to focus on per day, and the other two can be trained supplimentary. i.e. on Monday I am going to PV, so I might do some work on the landing portion of the long jump, or penultimate (sp?) work. Once that is completed, a short running workout--a reprise of the 200-400m guys workout. On Tuesday, if you were to concentrate on the LJ, thats the event you go to first. When you are completed with the LJ, maybe you do some quick stiff pole work (i.e. drilling positions, good swing mechanics etc.) and again, a reprise of the running. On Wednesday, running is the focus, and again, whatever is the focus, I would suggest doing first before your CNS is fried and your brain doesn't want to tell your body to do anything. This can then be taken to Thursday and Friday, into the meet on the weekend.
The reason I say that it is especailly hard for a HS athlete to be a multi event guy is because they are still learning the fundamentals of all the events. It takes a lot of time and effort to master any one of the field events, let alone more than one. I PV'ed competitively for 7 years before I actually started to feel like I knew what I was doing. Running is one of those things that comes with the territory of track and field. There is no way around that. But if the 2-4 guys have a workout consisting of 300-400-500; I would think post vaulting and LJ, that 150-200-250--or even a straight 200m workout with proper rep, split and recovery augmentation would suffice.
What do you think?
