world records

[PVJunkie]

No offense, but lumping records made on the pre-Gill Skypoles to records made on Carbons, or even Pacer IIIs, is kinda silly. Skypoles nowadays are totally different, and you won't see too many world records made on those!

Props for doing some research though

Ok how do I best expain this................A skypole has always been a Skypole............A Pacer has always been a Pacer etc etc etc.

Now.........all poles have evolved, some have noted changes (change in the sticker, color, sz etc etc.) but their still that brand (a ford mustang is still a mustang no matter when it was made). They may perform differently but they are still that brand. Change in ownership did not change the process but the evoulution continued just as it always had. All Manufac evolve does this mean they no longer lay claim to their previous models.................no. So a record set on any gien pole is a record on that pole.

[rainbowgirl28]

Ok how do I best expain this................A skypole has always been a Skypole............A Pacer has always been a Pacer etc etc etc.

Now.........all poles have evolved, some have noted changes (change in the sticker, color, sz etc etc.) but their still that brand (a ford mustang is still a mustang no matter when it was made). They may perform differently but they are still that brand. Change in ownership did not change the process but the evoulution continued just as it always had. All Manufac evolve does this mean they no longer lay claim to their previous models.................no. So a record set on any gien pole is a record on that pole.

I guess I was just trying to point out that there has been a LOT of evolution in Skypoles over the past... 35 years? Longer? As there has been in ALL poles. I don't think modern Skypoles have set too many World Records since they are marketed at high schoolers.

Your statement that Spirits do not have the most World Records just depends on how you look at it. I would assume they have the most World Records of a single brand of pole. But if you combined Pacer IIIs and Pacers, maybe I would be wrong? If Spirit has the most WRs, does that mean UCS has the most WRs of any manufacturer? Not necessarily. But then you get into a debate about whether Gill should inherit any WRs set on Skypoles and Pacers before they bought them.

In the end it doesn't matter so much to the average person. What matters is being on the right size pole for you.

[Skyin' Brian]

i have not researched this, but didnt bubka switch from pacer to spirit before carbons came out? if this is true then no world record has been set on a carbon.
another interesting stat would be the world record for each pole such as record for blue skypole, pacer III, pacer, spririt, carbon, essx, catapole, etc.

[PVJunkie]

i have not researched this, but didnt bubka switch from pacer to spirit before carbons came out? if this is true then no world record has been set on a carbon.
another interesting stat would be the world record for each pole such as record for blue skypole, pacer III, pacer, spririt, carbon, essx, catapole, etc.

WAY more research than Im interested in doing!!! And, Becca, the skypole has not changed all THAT much since the powder blue version. And yes world records WERE set on THAT pole. The more interesting fact is that all the mens world records on Spirit are by one man........and the majority of womens world records on spirit are by 3 women. There are several men that set world records on more than one brand of pole.

[achtungpv]

i have not researched this, but didnt bubka switch from pacer to spirit before carbons came out? if this is true then no world record has been set on a carbon.
another interesting stat would be the world record for each pole such as record for blue skypole, pacer III, pacer, spririt, carbon, essx, catapole, etc.

Bubka's Spirits were Pacer IIIs wrapped as Spirits. The urban legend quote from Bubka of his introduction to the stock Spirits was "This pole is sh!t." Don't know if that part is true, but it's funny.

[lonestar]

i have not researched this, but didnt bubka switch from pacer to spirit before carbons came out? if this is true then no world record has been set on a carbon.
another interesting stat would be the world record for each pole such as record for blue skypole, pacer III, pacer, spririt, carbon, essx, catapole, etc.

Bubka's Spirits were Pacer IIIs wrapped as Spirits. The urban legend quote from Bubka of his introduction to the stock Spirits was "This pole is sh!t." Don't know if that part is true, but it's funny.

[Bruce Caldwell]

In 1996, at the Olympic Games in Atlanta as most of you know I was in charge of all the equipment logistics and the supply of equipment while working for PORTaPIT.

We were in charge of inspection and security of all the vaulters' vaulting poles at the Games.

While the judge was inspecting the vaulting poles we notice some interesting characteristics when they were looking at Bubka's poles.

1. They were the very stiff poles we had ever seen .9 .10 and .11 flexes on 17' poles

2. Even on the used poles the bottom of the poles where everyone else had globs of tape. He had no tape, no scratches, and no nicks in the butt area.
The poles look like they never touched the back of the box.
While all others vaulters poles where beat up, taped with pounds of tape at their butt ends.

3.The surfaces of the poles were very rough and did not look like the same surface of many of the other Spirit poles other vaulters had.

4. Some of the engraving was sanded off and you could not find the date the poles were made. The engraving that was on the poles was consistant with all other spirit engravings.

5. While some say that they were PACERS,
I will state that they were not Pacer made poles re-taped. I will say they were made for him in a special design, which might have been very similar to the PACERS he enjoyed and did his best on.

This has happend many times in the past.

[color=blue][b]When Earl Bell was jumping on Sky poles with a special design in 1976, he broke the World Record 18’7’. Pacer made him some similar designed poles in an effort to lure him to their label. This special set built a 5.6 5.5 5.4 which in metric was a 12.3 12.1 11.8 with the PACER label was used by him in the Olympic Trials 1976 with a 18’4â€Â

[PVJunkie]

you just made my point crystal clear................it would be virtually impossible to track down who loaned whose poles when and why to jump at what meet................etc etc etc. It does not matter who owned them when............a skypole was and is a skypole...............even when owned by "X" changes were made, accomodations were made for certain athletes, I was just calling attention to the counts on a brand (and noted that in my orig post). The importance of who made the pole was not the point it was strictly a count of who...........on what...........jumped how high. I say again that there are still many similarities in the brands that you are trying to seperate out to their orig. Of course the advances in technology are in their also but to date no one has reinvented the wheel when making a pole............the closest thing to that was the addition of carbon, but even that was not a radical new direction (ie fiberglass replacing steel/bamboo).

[Decamouse]

so for some more usless trivia - should we figure out what shoe brands have the most PV records - and if the shoes were infact - lets say Nikes built in the US or in the far East and where the Puma's and Adidas actually made in Germany - or somewhere else!

[Bruce Caldwell]

add in what color pole tip was used for what WORLD RECORDS IE pacer tip was used on Bubka's poles at the OLYMPICS LOL

You guys are right Trivia is just that trivial but interesting and many love to hear it.

So continue with your study as I said before and I have no intention of defaming you two as I applaud the info and encourage it. but you have to state facts as best you can with out twisting it in ones favor


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[Decamouse]

Is that a World Record for you

[Bruce Caldwell]

Yes for us
We were just approved to move to the OTCBB stock exchange from the pink sheets, it is a marvel effort we have worked on for 3 years.

Taking a company public ranks up there with providing equipment to the Olympics both a real challenge.

Getting approval from the USTFF and the IAAF and the HFHS is similar to geting approval from the
SEC
Securities and Exchange Commision LOL