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Unread postby KentVango » Tue Mar 04, 2003 4:31 pm

Has anyone watched people vaulting over and over on tape to get the tech. down and use that to improve ur jumps?

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Unread postby Robert schmitt » Tue Mar 04, 2003 4:53 pm

YEP
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Unread postby wacky274 » Tue Mar 04, 2003 5:22 pm

Yes, but typically if i'm really trying to learn something from a vault, i watch just that part of the vault, and analyze that part of it. To get a perfect picture of a vault in your head you may watch someones plant, then someone elses swing, etc. This should help you get an ideal image in your head of what the "perfect vault" will look like. (at least that is my belief)
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Unread postby zack » Tue Mar 04, 2003 5:39 pm

I just watch Bubka's 6.01m winning jump from the Athens World Champs in '97. One of the most perfect vaults I've seen. You can download it from http://www.stabhochsprung.com

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Unread postby vaultguru6 » Tue Mar 04, 2003 6:50 pm

the more videos you can watch, the better. Every different jump can teach you something, because everyone has their seperate strengths and weaknesses. If you really want to learn about the vault, you need to watch A LOT of videos. And like they said, www.stabhochsprung.com is the best site to watch videos at.

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Unread postby OAKPV2004 » Tue Mar 04, 2003 8:07 pm

The best jump on stabhochsprung, in my opinion, is the bubka jumps before sydney. It's the second one on the list for that date, and it shows perfectly how he gets inverted so well. The bungee is at like 20' and he is probably 40 in the tape but its good footage.

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Unread postby xtremevaulter » Tue Mar 04, 2003 8:26 pm

I watch a video from the Elite compitition from the PV summit in 2002, Thanks becca hehehe

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Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Tue Mar 04, 2003 11:08 pm

xtremevaulter wrote:I watch a video from the Elite compitition from the PV summit in 2002, Thanks becca hehehe


Don't thank me... Brian Schaumann made it. I just gave you an extra copy ;)

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Unread postby KentVango » Wed Mar 05, 2003 3:15 pm

i am in henrico county so we have laptops and I think I have like 50 videos on my computer.........I watch the different styles people use and see if can relate.....

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Unread postby lonestar » Thu Mar 06, 2003 2:30 am

You can't go wrong watching ANY jump by Maksim Tarasov. I personally feel he was/is the greatest technician ever.
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Unread postby wacky274 » Thu Mar 06, 2003 4:03 am

I will definetely support that Tarasov is a great person to watch from a technical standpoint. His form is really good overall.
Champions aren't made in gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them-a desire, a dream, a vision. They have to have last-minute stamina, they have to be a little faster, they have to have the skill and the will. But the will must be stronger than the skill. - Muhammad Ali



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Unread postby dubjones » Thu Mar 06, 2003 3:33 pm

Watching video is as it has always been a great idea. Be very carefull not to look at only individual frames of jumps, and try to emulate "positions". The pole vault is not made up of positions, it is a flow. One of the most important things you can learn from watching video is to figure out what works and what dosen't within the flow of a jump. None of the best vaulters do it the same, but they all have a flow that allows them to move big poles and climb out then end. Most of the big jumps you are going to find are smooth, you don't see a position A, B, C...... I see a lot of kids hitting "Big" positions like they have seen the big guys do, but completely missing the boat on the entire pole vault. The pole vault works in a flow, as one continous movement, not individual pieces. Find out where energy comes from and where it goes.
A good idea is to look for "dead" frames in video, or times when a vaulter is simply hanging around waiting for something to happen. In a perfect world there would be 0 frames where the vaulter is passive.
Just some ideas for you all out there, I can elaborate more if you like, but I am tired, and very old, and I gotta' go jump.
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