loss of penitration with swing

[Enloe11]

Im just getting on to longer pole where I am having to put more and more things together to get into the pit successfully. I have been working on the ground as of late, and its getting better and better. But my swing is starting to hinder me.as soon as i start to swing the pole just slowly seems to lose momentum and then just unbends. Ill post a video ad put a link so hopefully someone can help me out.

[Enloe11]

Here is the video for analysis.

http://youtu.be/njlxfa1uq1c

[charlie]

2 things----#1 do not block the left arm STRAIGHT(it keeps the chest from going through) keep the left arm BENT through the whole vault!! Don't really like dropping the head back (till your totally inverted) Fix those 2 things and you go a foot higher IMMEDIATELY!!!! Prove me wrong!!!!!

[Enloe11]

2 things----#1 do not block the left arm STRAIGHT(it keeps the chest from going through) keep the left arm BENT through the whole vault!! Don't really like dropping the head back (till your totally inverted) Fix those 2 things and you go a foot higher IMMEDIATELY!!!! Prove me wrong!!!!!

what about like my left leg on the swing? it tucks really badly does that have anything to do with it? and i thought it was good to keep your left arm straight and drive it up through the take off?

[vquestpvc]

Couldn't agree more with Charlie. The swing should come through the top hand. Whenever the bottom hand comes into play it will block you from swinging over the pole.

[Enloe11]

Couldn't agree more with Charlie. The swing should come through the top hand. Whenever the bottom hand comes into play it will block you from swinging over the pole.

so by letting my left arm bend i will drive my chest more, swing longer and faster, and end up on top of the pole?

[Enloe11]

here is another video from a different day for a side by side.. possibly a differnet look

http://youtu.be/dnM7H2Nhqqg

[KirkB]

so by letting my left arm bend i will drive my chest more, swing longer and faster, and end up on top of the pole?

Yes! Focus on your chest --- not on your bottom arm. To swing longer and faster, you should also do lots of highbar work.

I agree with Charlie. And with Vquest.

You may have to use lighter poles while you transition from a bottom arm press to no bottom arm, but it will pay off in the long run.

The key to a good swing is good posture immediately after takeoff. When I freeze your vid to post-takeoff, I see your body slanted backwards (not forwards). So just as you should have good forwards lean (good posture) when you run, you should have a similar forwards lean post-takeoff. Let the chest drive through, rather than resisting it with the bottom arm. Don't worry, the top arm will bend the pole, due to the force generated from your run and jump.

With good body posture, you will get the kind of PR improvements that Charlie mentioned.

Re head posture, don't do anything with it --- just let it stay aligned with your spine. Some vaulters are under the misconception that if you lead with your head, your body will follow. This isn't true. Arching your neck actually causes your entire spine to arch --- just when you want the opposite to happen. During your swing, you want your spine to become hollow (the opposite of arched).

Sam Kendricks throws his head back, but that doesn't mean you should copy him, just because he's cleared 19-3 this way. I consider it one of his worst technical flaws (and at 19-3 he doesn't have many).

Good luck to you, and here's hoping for many PRs this season. Let us know how it goes.

Kirk

[charlie]

Kirk must be sneaking down (way down south) in Georgia!!!! Last video was much better!!!! Birds of a feather flock together! Kirk--are you coming to Nationals? I will be there with bone on bone knee!!! I could use some help!!! Just a little!!!!

[Enloe11]

so by letting my left arm bend i will drive my chest more, swing longer and faster, and end up on top of the pole?

Yes! Focus on your chest --- not on your bottom arm. To swing longer and faster, you should also do lots of highbar work.

I agree with Charlie. And with Vquest.

You may have to use lighter poles while you transition from a bottom arm press to no bottom arm, but it will pay off in the long run.

The key to a good swing is good posture immediately after takeoff. When I freeze your vid to post-takeoff, I see your body slanted backwards (not forwards). So just as you should have good forwards lean (good posture) when you run, you should have a similar forwards lean post-takeoff. Let the chest drive through, rather than resisting it with the bottom arm. Don't worry, the top arm will bend the pole, due to the force generated from your run and jump.

With good body posture, you will get the kind of PR improvements that Charlie mentioned.

Re head posture, don't do anything with it --- just let it stay aligned with your spine. Some vaulters are under the misconception that if you lead with your head, your body will follow. This isn't true. Arching your neck actually causes your entire spine to arch --- just when you want the opposite to happen. During your swing, you want your spine to become hollow (the opposite of arched).

Sam Kendricks throws his head back, but that doesn't mean you should copy him, just because he's cleared 19-3 this way. I consider it one of his worst technical flaws (and at 19-3 he doesn't have many).

Good luck to you, and here's hoping for many PRs this season. Let us know how it goes.

Kirk

This video is from a few months back and I seem to be able to do what your saying on a small run with a small pole, but I figured I started going to bigger poles I had to be more ridged. So if I do this on a longer run and longer pole I should be able to move the larger poles just as well?

http://youtu.be/Dv_ZMzhWkI0

[charlie]

Nope--Still too much BLOCK with left arm & chest cant get through!!!! That is what makes you come up SHORT!!!!

[vcpvcoach]

Please post pole length, pole weight, and grip height. And, how much you weigh. Thanks.