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Can I get your opinion?

Unread postby leftist vaulter » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:49 am

I'm was evaluating my technique with my coach yesterday, and we couldn't solve this problem. I run fast, and my plant is pretty good, but I manage to do this a few times every day I vault.

I bend the poop out of the pole, and I end up stalling out in mid air while I am about to transition from the basket to being completely upside down. I am suspecting it is because my swing just starts sucking midway through practice.

Can I get your guys' opinions? My school isn't too hot on supplying any training equipment, so are there any "poor man's" ways to fix this problem?

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Unread postby txpolevaulter_k25 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:53 am

It is probably because you are not turning the vault up, and just hanging on it. I do it when i get tired. You can pretty much build any training device out there, just use a little creativity and thought.
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Unread postby achtungpv » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:13 pm

Do not just nut up and turn up every vault. That's bad advice.

At the very least, you are gripping too high. Also, the fact you say "basket" bothers me. You really need to read the technique forums and learn what proper technique is and apply any drills provided to your training.

I'll also state as fact that you do not have a good plant and take off. Probably less than 1% of vaulters do. That 1% does not stall out over the runway or box.
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Re: Can I get your opinion?

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:47 pm

leftist vaulter wrote:I'm was evaluating my technique with my coach yesterday, and we couldn't solve this problem. I run fast, and my plant is pretty good, but I manage to do this a few times every day I vault.

I bend the poop out of the pole, and I end up stalling out in mid air while I am about to transition from the basket to being completely upside down. I am suspecting it is because my swing just starts sucking midway through practice.

Can I get your guys' opinions? My school isn't too hot on supplying any training equipment, so are there any "poor man's" ways to fix this problem?


If you are bending the pole too much, and not rotating it into the pit, drop your grip! At least a fist, or more until you are landing safely into the pit.

The lower grip will stiffen the pole slightly while also increasing your pole rotation (you will get into the pit instead of stalling out).

I also agree with the post above me.

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Unread postby txpolevaulter_k25 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:08 pm

achtungpv wrote:Do not just nut up and turn up every vault. That's bad advice.

At the very least, you are gripping too high. Also, the fact you say "basket" bothers me. You really need to read the technique forums and learn what proper technique is and apply any drills provided to your training.

I'll also state as fact that you do not have a good plant and take off. Probably less than 1% of vaulters do. That 1% does not stall out over the runway or box.


Well you do have to help the pole some, you cant expect the pole to just automatically make you rock back and then invert, that is what i was trying to say.

I am guessing by the "basket" term he is being taught to bring his knees to his chest, and tuck and shoot.
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Unread postby bel142 » Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:33 pm

a coach once told me, "Its pole vaulting not pole bending" bend in the pole is a good thing if you're using it correctly. Just because the pole bends does not mean things are going right. I agree with the above bump down your grip a tick.

You might be taking off flat, this means that rather than jumping up and into the pole, you just run and take of at more of a horizontal angle. (If you imagine a triangle you follow the legs of the triangle, in and up, rather than the hypotenuse, (woo 9th grade geometry))

Now i can't see you jump so this might e a shot in the dark BUT, if you look at your self on film and take your vault down to a frame by frame, you want to see when you're in your bucket or basket - what have you - that your back does not stay parallel with the ground for any frames of film. You want to be able to keep motion moving and not stay in that "bucket" for extended periods of time,(if at all).

If you are not moving while the pole is unbending then you are loosing energy from the pole. Keep swinging and keep trying to get up side down. And keep your body moving through the whole vault.

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Unread postby altius » Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:04 pm

You will find the problem you describe well illustrated in BTB2 by figure 6.4 - it is very common and comes usually comes from the notion that the pole should be bent, not moved up and forward, at take off - often with a take off which is deliberately under and usually with someone who has been taught to take off flat. All three of these faults are well entrenched in US high school vaulting. :idea: :yes:
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