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JUMPING HIGHER
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2002 11:03 pm
by vaultin chris
I know everyone has there own set of priorities when it comes to jumping high, but what do YOU think is the most important elements are to jumping higher. (i.e. what do u think it will take to get over 21 feet or even set a new world record?--poles--speed--technique???)
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 12:01 am
by Azbeachboy1
ohh geez, I feel a huge debate coming up!!! In my opinion a good plant and transition into takeoff sets the tone for the entire vault
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 2:52 am
by VaultFreak
Yeah, the plant is where it all begins.
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 10:31 am
by vaultin chris
what about Dave Volz (1982-5.75) (infamous for Volzing)? he would be so far under, then he would push out and completley blast a height.
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Important elements
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 11:02 am
by dubjones
Technique ect... are all important to jumping high. But the real key to jumping really high is speed. If someone is going to jump 21' they are going to have to be rollin', it won't happen any other way. To jump that high just about everthing else will have to be perfect too.
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 11:42 am
by lonestar
Yeah, I have to agree with Dub on this one. Regardless of pushoff efficiency and flawless technique, the bottom line to pole vaulting is that the higher you can effectively hold and the stiffer the pole you can effectively line up on, the higher you can jump. What makes that possible? Speed, and how well you transfer that speed into the takeoff. I would venture to say that a 21' jump will probably require at least a 17'4 grip with the vaulter bringing at least 10 meters/second effectively into the takeoff. Bubka and Huffman were running high 9's through the last 5 meters of their vaults, and an occasional 10, but the 10's weren't under control so they ended up as misses.
Y'all should check out Peter McGinnis velocities studies that can predict fairly accurately how high a person can vault based on runway velocity.
Kris
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 11:50 am
by PVJunkie
that research has been posted on this site (ok its been abbriviated on this site but the concept is here). Check it out, and see what it would take (speed wise) to even stand a chance of setting a new world record. If Tim Montgomery could run the same speed with a pole as he did in the 100m world record............well he would jump really high...........of course he would need to learn world class technique to do so........until then we could all beat him no matter how fast he was running.
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 12:09 pm
by vaultin chris
great point
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 1:42 pm
by crash
thats right buddy, dosen't matter how fast you go if you cain't transfer the energy effectivley the speed dosen't matter.
but all in all, new record will come down to..... let your nuts hang , i think a mental aspect will be in the head of the athlete attempting the new world record. ( imagine yourself in that situation) bar at 21
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 2:25 pm
by Azbeachboy1
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:08 am
by wacky274
yeah, i mean i can't even imagine 21....thats a HUGE vault.....thats gotta play some serious head games...that vaulter will have to be mentally prepared big time
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 4:59 pm
by dubjones
Crash,
I'll be in Sanmarcos Friday and Saturday of this week, looking for something to do in my off time. I have a confrence there I must attend. Drop me a line and let me know where the "hot spots" are.
dub
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