15' to a 15' 6"

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15' to a 15' 6"

Unread postby Borntovault » Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:17 pm

I am 18 and I am a vaulter from Alabama. My PR is 15'7" and I have encountered a problem. I have been jumping on 15' poles and finally getting in too deep (standards at 80cm) and have no more poles in the 15' range. Then yesterday I broke that 170 15' 18.4. I was wondering how much different the poles act in the 15'6" and should I move back a step.

Stats:
Steps:6
Standards:80cm
Grip:14'5"
weight:150
Height:5' 10"

The video link is a vault about a month and a half ago. Then the bar was at 15'1" standards were at 70cm and I was on that 15' 170. Thanks for the help.

Chris Spear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g36i5rT0vhs
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Re: 15' to a 15' 6"

Unread postby Soar Like an Eagle » Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:12 pm

Borntovault wrote:I am 18 and I am a vaulter from Alabama. My PR is 15'7" and I have encountered a problem. I have been jumping on 15' poles and finally getting in too deep (standards at 80cm) and have no more poles in the 15' range. Then yesterday I broke that 170 15' 18.4. I was wondering how much different the poles act in the 15'6" and should I move back a step.

Stats:
Steps:6
Standards:80cm
Grip:14'5"
weight:150
Height:5' 10"

The video link is a vault about a month and a half ago. Then the bar was at 15'1" standards were at 70cm and I was on that 15' 170. Thanks for the help.

Chris Spear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g36i5rT0vhs


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Unread postby achtungpv » Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:12 pm

Depending on the brand, I think the sailpiece is in the same place as the 15's...they just have 6" of extra glass. Whenever you move up in length, make sure you keep the same grip or even drop it 2" for your first couple of vaults and you'll be fine. You don't have to change anything when moving up in length as long as your technique dictates you're ready to move up in length.
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Unread postby Borntovault » Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:57 pm

Thanks for the help. Today I found a 15' 176 17.3 and a 15'9" 169 22.0 at my school, both are essx. Then I have a 15'6" 165 19.8 Carbon FX and a 15' 7" 170 22.2 Spirit. The 15' I was jumping on was a Carbon FX. Is there that much difference in a 15'7" Spirit and a 15'6" Carbon. Also if I came from seven on the 165 15'6" would it be too long of a run for the pole. Thanks for the help guys I have never had a coach and I try to get any help I can. I've learned a lot for 'Beginner to Bubka'. Thanks again guys.

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Unread postby vault3rb0y » Sun Jun 18, 2006 12:11 am

looking at your jumps i think i need to buy B2B, very impressive. Good selection of poles, other than looking at their weights, the best way to organize the sequence of stiffness would be to test them yourself. Take a few runs in a practice with each, and see how each feels.
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Unread postby achtungpv » Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:17 am

Borntovault wrote:Thanks for the help. Today I found a 15' 176 17.3 and a 15'9" 169 22.0 at my school, both are essx. Then I have a 15'6" 165 19.8 Carbon FX and a 15' 7" 170 22.2 Spirit. The 15' I was jumping on was a Carbon FX. Is there that much difference in a 15'7" Spirit and a 15'6" Carbon. Also if I came from seven on the 165 15'6" would it be too long of a run for the pole. Thanks for the help guys I have never had a coach and I try to get any help I can. I've learned a lot for 'Beginner to Bubka'. Thanks again guys.

Chris Spear


In a perfect world, all those poles would flex out as marked across brands and your series would be:
15' 176
15'6 165
15'7 170
15'9 169

The best idea is to flex them out yourself on the same span to see where they fall relative to each other. You don't have to hit the factory flexes to do this as long as your consistent with how you measure flexes, you can put the poles in the correct order of ascending stiffness.
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