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Used to taking off under, cannot takeoff at ideal mark

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:10 pm
by AzNJJ
I am a high school junior, second year vaulter
107lb 5'3" Asian PR: 10'6" in meet 11' in practice. gripping a few inches above 11'.
I use a 120lb 12' Skypole
I am consistently under, anywhere from 4inches to nearly a foot.
Today at practice we had a head wind, and stalled when my step was right on, and again. [Note: I was only capable to jump twice, other times I always felt outside, also wind affects my run/vault greatly @ 107lbs]
When theres no wind and I plant under I land really deep into the pit. Last meet I had to set standards all the way back to 31.5in, and I still hit the crossbar even though I had the height. I was thinking of slowly bringing back my step everytime I vault. That way I'll get a little closer to my ideal takeoff point. Since at practice I went from flying way in to stalling and being shotback at the ideal mark a foot away from what I'm used to. Any other suggestions would be great, I'm willing to try almost about anything.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:26 pm
by Cooleo111
Try jumping! ;)

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:27 pm
by theczar
Cooleo111 wrote:Try jumping! ;)


^x2

jump off the ground

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:38 pm
by AzNJJ
I tried to jump!, best one that came out from jumping up and hitting my ideal mark was stalling out.
PS: I wasn't in the best condition to vault, my sleep was taxed by the stress of up coming AP Exams. last night ~ 3hrs of sleep, day before 2hrs.

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:06 am
by vault3rb0y
AzNJJ wrote:I tried to jump!, best one that came out from jumping up and hitting my ideal mark was stalling out.
PS: I wasn't in the best condition to vault, my sleep was taxed by the stress of up coming AP Exams. last night ~ 3hrs of sleep, day before 2hrs.
i was having the same problem end of indoor, you get too comfortable and used to taking off under. Even though you know you have more force and its better to be right on, you never think you are right now. My problem was over striding the last step. You could try doing pole runs and making sure that last step is directly under your leg, not in front of you. If that doesnt work, it could be a confidence problem, which i also had, haha. do some 3 or 4 step easy approaches, after the pole runs, with a pole you know you can get through if you are outside or inside, and just adjust your mark until its right. Once its right, do it over at least 5- 10 times so that it feels more natural. You gotta build the muscle habits and memory of your step being right before it will stay right.

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:28 pm
by Ming3r
This is probalby going to be bad advice, but I advocate for a more controlled run. I used to sprint my runs, but I lost a bit of control and was used to just striding on the last step.

I've cut my pace a bit to something more controlled, and its helped a lot...

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:58 pm
by vault3rb0y
Ming3r wrote:This is probalby going to be bad advice, but I advocate for a more controlled run. I used to sprint my runs, but I lost a bit of control and was used to just striding on the last step.

I've cut my pace a bit to something more controlled, and its helped a lot...
thats actually really good advice, from what i know. You want the fasted.... controlled speed. If you can run 9.7 meters per second down the last 3 steps thats great, but if your step is always off and your plant is not square, you are defeating the purpose. Thats how i used to vault, but when you get a dynamic step, you get a lot more controlled, even though you arent going as fast, you are putting more usable energy into the pole.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:12 pm
by Ming3r
Sweet, I actually gave decent advice for once! :P

Its basically what I used yesterday - had my best vaults, in which my first 4 steps felt really slow, and really just accelerated in teh last 3 lefts. It felt a little weird, but my confidence was better because I knew where I was.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:21 pm
by nitro
put a shirt down about 3 feet infront of where u normally take off and it will help

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:50 pm
by AKell
move your steps back a foot, go for it, jump high and lean into the pole, and DON'T LOOK DOWN- it will help you not feel inside if you trust your steps and push hard.