What is a late plant?

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What is a late plant?

Unread postby agapit » Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:33 am

What is a late plant?

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You hear often people say: “It was a late plantâ€Â
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Unread postby izzystikchik » Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:52 am

....very smart perspective, I guess i used to just think of my arms when planting but it is true that it is the pole tip that makes the journey rather than the your hands. So you're saying that the gravity pulling on the pole is the initiator of the plant rather than punching? the arms up before take off, gotcha ;) Nice point :yes: Cause i know i always have back problems and sprains...understep sometimes but not always :o

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Unread postby Vault&Flip » Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:23 am

From this perspective, I guess "dump planters," individuals who literally drop their pole from near vertical into the box and jump, must have the latest possible plant. Which is why no one should ever do that. I 100% agree, the plant is a result of what happened before it, the action of lowering the pole must be the start of the plant in order to ensure that your plant is not "late."

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Unread postby PVPirate26 » Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:23 am

so would it be more beneficial to carry the pole in your approach with the tip closer to the ground? will that help prevent a late plant?

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Unread postby jhesch » Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:04 pm

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Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:22 pm

PVPirate26 wrote:so would it be more beneficial to carry the pole in your approach with the tip closer to the ground? will that help prevent a late plant?


I have a teammate that carries it about horizontal the whole run, and I think she runs a lot slower because of it.

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Unread postby agapit » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:01 pm

izzystikchik wrote:....very smart perspective, I guess i used to just think of my arms when planting but it is true that it is the pole tip that makes the journey rather than the your hands. So you're saying that the gravity pulling on the pole is the initiator of the plant rather than punching? the arms up before take off, gotcha ;) Nice point :yes: Cause i know i always have back problems and sprains...understep sometimes but not always :o


As a matter of fact arms move very slow in the plant. The left hand travels about 18â€Â
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Unread postby agapit » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:07 pm

Vault&Flip wrote:From this perspective, I guess "dump planters," individuals who literally drop their pole from near vertical into the box and jump, must have the latest possible plant. Which is why no one should ever do that. I 100% agree, the plant is a result of what happened before it, the action of lowering the pole must be the start of the plant in order to ensure that your plant is not "late."


Well pole should be dropped freely. If you consider gravitation, air resistance and action of a left arm it will take just over a second to drop the tip into the box just about right for 6 steps. Besides, it is not a true free drop; left arm would control descent of the tip into the box, but with almost undetectable effort.
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Unread postby agapit » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:08 pm

PVPirate26 wrote:so would it be more beneficial to carry the pole in your approach with the tip closer to the ground? will that help prevent a late plant?


It will help. Beginners usually carry pole closer to the ground, however it would be impossible to do with the 5m/210LBS pole due to the weight of the pole.
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Unread postby agapit » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:10 pm

jhesch wrote:Glad to see everyone on here is your 'friend' and appreciate your confidence in pre-stating "Your welcome" for all of our gratitude towards your advice.


well there is a lot of pain and time invested in this advise... free to you.
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Unread postby agapit » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:11 pm

rainbowgirl28 wrote:
PVPirate26 wrote:so would it be more beneficial to carry the pole in your approach with the tip closer to the ground? will that help prevent a late plant?


I have a teammate that carries it about horizontal the whole run, and I think she runs a lot slower because of it.


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Unread postby Robert schmitt » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:30 pm

you see this all the time in HS athletes as they slow down to give themsleves time to plant the pole b/c the began lowering the pole too late.
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