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I almost got beat up by a standard.
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:10 pm
by tim hutzley
I was jumping today and we had the bungee up. I jumped and when I got up I kinda bailed out and came down right on the bungee, the bungee stretched till it couldent stretch anymore then I got loose and landed on the pit. I just sat there for a second cause I landed almost in the box, it was close. Then my coaches yelled, watch out!!! I looked up and saw the standard on my left falling right at me but it was too late to move and when the end of the standard hit the pit and stoped, it was only a few inches above my chest.
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:35 pm
by opalkak
happens all the time to Adam Z here at arizona
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:35 am
by Vaultref
This is second hand information and I do not doubt the credibility of it's source.... NFHS is considering a rule change to disallow the use of bungee style cords if standards are not "secured" to the ground.
Time will tell.
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:56 pm
by blazerunner121
Vaultref wrote:This is second hand information and I do not doubt the credibility of it's source.... NFHS is considering a rule change to disallow the use of bungee style cords if standards are not "secured" to the ground.
Time will tell.
it should be a rule already. i don't think anyone would want standards landing on anyones body.
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 12:43 am
by das_1971
most standards I have jumped at are loose, if there even sitting on level ground. however they all are held down with those heavy box style standard covers. they still come down if you hit them, but as I just posted a few minutes ago, most the people I jump with don't make the pit
med ball
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:38 am
by uconnvaulta
yeah that has happened to me before i got my foot caught in the bungee and when i was on the mat everyone was screaming at me im like wtf man, then like a reaction i pull some matrix joint and roll out the way right before the standard flew on the mat it was crazy, we normally put big medicine balls on the standards now just to make sure the standards arent moving, when the standards are up high with the bungees theres no way the thing is staying up but when its low the standards shouldnt fall.
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 12:14 pm
by SlickVT
This is second hand information and I do not doubt the credibility of it's source.... NFHS is considering a rule change to disallow the use of bungee style cords if standards are not "secured" to the ground.
Time will tell.
CIVE ME A FREAKIN BREAK. PRETTY SOON, WE WILL ALL HAVE TO WEAR MOTORCYCLE HELMETS, THE MATS WILL BE 100 feet x 100 feet, PARACHUTES WILL BE REQUIRED, AND ONLY PADDED CROSSBARS WITH SAFETY CORDS WILL BE USED. THESE RULES ARE FREAKIN RIDICULOUS. USE COMMON SENSE PEOPLE. IT GOES A LONG WAY.
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 12:36 pm
by opalkak
right on it is getting a little out of hand
when the pads were smaller in the 1980's - 2002 there wasn't a problem, as the pads get bigger more problems,
i don't know that anchoring the standards is such a good idea, if someone gets tangled in a bungee, the weakest thing needs to give, as long as the standards aren't anchored it'll be them and the bungee, not the athletes leg or arm.
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 1:11 pm
by Vaultref
SlickVT wrote:This is second hand information and I do not doubt the credibility of it's source.... NFHS is considering a rule change to disallow the use of bungee style cords if standards are not "secured" to the ground.
Time will tell.
CIVE ME A FREAKIN BREAK. PRETTY SOON, WE WILL ALL HAVE TO WEAR MOTORCYCLE HELMETS, THE MATS WILL BE 100 feet x 100 feet, PARACHUTES WILL BE REQUIRED, AND ONLY PADDED CROSSBARS WITH SAFETY CORDS WILL BE USED. THESE RULES ARE FREAKIN RIDICULOUS. USE COMMON SENSE PEOPLE. IT GOES A LONG WAY.
Easy fellow track and field person... if common sense did prevail, standards would ride inside of a solid base that is bolted to the ground at every site but they are NOT.
I've heard about every excuse in the book as to why they aren't "secured" to the ground.
Vault standards are not supposed to be able to fall over and smash you, so either bolt them down or stop using the bungee.
Using the weight of the base pads is not going to cut it when a bungee is being used for warmups.
Many schools still use these old style standards that while they have very heavy bases, the standards ride on rollers , like train wheels on top of this base. This type of standard is very easy to topple over. What I'm staying is these cannot be bolted down. I suspect there is some additional part that helps keep these in the rail but most of the time that part is missing, therefore a bungee will topple these standards very easily.
You would think they would find this part or fabricate something and use it.
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 1:19 pm
by Vaultref
opalkak wrote:right on it is getting a little out of hand
when the pads were smaller in the 1980's - 2002 there wasn't a problem, as the pads get bigger more problems,
i don't know that anchoring the standards is such a good idea, if someone gets tangled in a bungee, the weakest thing needs to give, as long as the standards aren't anchored it'll be them and the bungee, not the athletes leg or arm.
Wrong, the weak link should be the bungee itself. It's supposed to stretch with the weight of the jumper, it should never cause the standards to topple over. I'll repeat that, should never cause the standards to topple.
I've seen bungees where they stretched almost to the top of the pad while caught under the vaulters arm. The standards held firm because they were bolted down and of a design where the base holds the movable standard securely.
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 2:14 pm
by C-townvault
I've broken plenty of bungees so far in my vaulting. all we do is retie them and go back at it. Also our standards are bolted down so we dont' have the problem of them falling.
both - bungie should stretch - std stay in place
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 2:17 pm
by Decamouse
First - NFHS - Rule 7, Section 5, Art. 11 - 2004 Rules - "The standards shall have all exposed projections on the base covered or padded and be secured in a way as to prevent them from tipping over" so for HS that pretty much covers it. For the rest - someone said use a little common sense - ok - don't run over a hurdle from the wrong direction