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Stride Length

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:37 pm
by JungJoven
So I went to the UCLA pole vault camp this week and it was amazing. I didn't know my form was that bad. :o But ya, one of the things that was making me jelous and was causing problems was my stride length. Im pretty fast but the coaches said I take really short and choppy steps. How can I improve my stride length?

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:20 pm
by dj
hey

look on PVP home page.. "MID" mark chart..

set up some runs on the track with each of the last 6 steps marked..

how high do you jump and what grip do you use...

dj

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:31 am
by JungJoven
Well I wasss using a 12 140 but at the camp I moved to like a 13 130, mainly because they were trying to emphasize form. Jumping around 11'-- 11' 6"?


edit- gripping at around 12'6" i think.

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:20 am
by dj
good morning

a 12-7 grip means you should have a 6 step "MID" near 42 feet if you are running correctly.. 42 "MID" is 6 steps 5-4 inches long..

set your run up on the track and give it a try..

mark the "MID" and each of the last 6 steps..

dj

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:06 pm
by JungJoven
dj wrote:good morning

a 12-7 grip means you should have a 6 step "MID" near 42 feet if you are running correctly.. 42 "MID" is 6 steps 5-4 inches long..

set your run up on the track and give it a try..

mark the "MID" and each of the last 6 steps..

dj


I dont really understand what you mean. I use a 6 left run, which is around 70. Do I need to take really short steps when I first start so I hit 42 then start striding longer or what? lol Sorry for being so beginnery.

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:24 pm
by Powervaulter
Start at your regular mark of 70'. Your third left should hit 42', and you should be taking off at 10'.

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:41 pm
by VTechVaulter
the chart is a good reference, however for 6L i dont think itll quite work. I believe DJ said its more of a long run chart.

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:48 pm
by dj
hey

it works from 6 lefts, 5 lefts, 4 lefts and 3 lefts... stiff or bending pole..

match the 6 step (3 lefts) mark with the grip.. all the time..

if you are doing 3 lefts and pop ups holding 12 feet.. your start should be at approx.. 40 feet

dj

Speed...

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:14 am
by baggettpv
Stride lenght is based on 2 facets. Strength and running efficiency. DJ's info is great for a base comparator but you must look at what you do to get there.
Speed= Turnover rate x stride length.


Rick Baggett
WSTC LLC

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:25 am
by dj
good morning

Speed= Turnover rate x stride length
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dead on.. mr. B

the chart gives you stride length... the athlete has to develop the strength and correct foot strick position..

drill.. try running 30 meter sprints .. with the pole ..pulling a tire..

you will improve your run.. and if you really want to get a "strong' plant, do the same and plant into a sliding box.

dj

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:10 am
by souleman
Time to paint another yellow stripe on the street out in front of my house and get an old tire to pull. The only concern I have with this exercise is "what about posture?". Seems to me that with the weight of an object behind the runner, that posture would be in a leaning forward position which is not "running tall". I can definitly see how this exercise could be beneficial though. Another question, is the "pull" all out? One more, Like the 20 in 20, is there a certain number of steps one should try to hit in the 30 meters Later.....Mike

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:22 pm
by dj
hey

yes there is a little lean while pulling.. but the benefit is you must run striking the ground "under" your body to pull a sled or tire..

the first part of any approach or any run is to break inertia and to establish posture... the last 6 steps are frequency/hip allgnment/posture

as the athlete accelerates they "rise" to a more upright posture...

run the 30 meters as an acceleration...trying to finish by "getting the feet down the way you should in the vault

dj