What do I do from here?

[ADTF Academy]

What size of a pole is that. Cause it looks like maybe a 13 at the most. If that is the case your Locked out.


Your bottom arm might not be stright completely but pretty close. Your top arm is locked out that I can see from here by either you have a huge bicep or your bicep is active meaning your performing a pulling action. This is caused by the fulcrum you have with the bottom arm.


Your basically pulling down with your top arm.


Your maybe what a foot off the ground and your already starting to go to your back. Your shoulder seem to be already leaning backwards once again caused by the over stiff bottom arm.


The angle of the picture is tough because it is slightly to the side so I am not sure if your square or not or if the picture makes you seem to be tilting to the left.

Overall you have some good things going. Your bottom elbow posiition is nice just the arm is a little to stiff for me for that small of a pole. If it relaxed a bit more and the top arm shoulder relaxed slightly you would have a more pronouced chest leading action setting you up for a more powerful and quicker swing to inversion.

Just my two cents. Your definately strong enough

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yes thank you, best criticism I've heard in a long time. You're right, it is a 13' pole. I have also noticed that though I punch up at takeoff, I'm hesitant to finish the motion for some reason, and I dont finish punching at the end. That could be the pull ur talking about/my ginormous bicep. I agree that my bottom arm is looking a little to locked out or at least pushing with it a lot, but I'm pretty sure that it's pushing up, which is ok right? It might be a little different because it's a soft pole on a short run so the pole is bending so much it just looks that way??? maybe. Another nice call on your part is the stiff shoulders. I don't really get to watch many of my video's, but in a couple i've seen my chest never travels through, and instead, my top arm stays next to the side of my head, forcing my shoulder back. Thanks for the comments I'll work on some of that stuff.

[ADTF Academy]

I don't really get to watch many of my video's, but in a couple i've seen my chest never travels through, and instead, my top arm stays next to the side of my head, forcing my shoulder back. Thanks for the comments I'll work on some of that stuff.

Well think about it. If you bottom arm is near straight what is it connected to. Your shoulders whihc are connected to your chest. If you arm is keeping your shoulders back than what else must be back your chest.


The famed upward pressure with the bottom arm is up and above you not out in front of you. This will allow you to get into the famed term the pocket. Which is caused by allowing your hands to move above you. By not locking out the bottom arm it will let you to get into the pocket. Plus you will not have the sinking motion you have now when you vault. As it stands you are performing a pulling action due to the fulcrum created with the bottom arm.

The other issue is, do you take off under. There are so many issues at hand that it is impossible to help you from the internet. I don't know what kind of vaulter you are. If your a pressure vaulter which I would say based on your picture and avatar that you are then your doing what you can. Do you safely get into the pit? As it stands your trying to be a pressure vaulter and trying to get inverted. Hence why you probably can't get into the pits on a stiffer and longer pole.

I will restat my previous posts if your a pressure vaulter you need to perform a tuck and shoot action to be safe and get on bigger poles.

Can't mix models sorry!

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Sorry maybe I wasnt clear, I'm not the kind of vaulter that locks the bottom arm straight out in order to get a big bend. Or at least I hope not. What I was talking about in my last post was my top arm not being loose at the shoulder, thus forcing my shoulders back, I think. Here is a video of me wut do u think? I'm shooting for a Petrov, straight trail leg, free takeoff( I know I dont have that), not locked out lower arm. The swing does not get finished and my top is not good, but how is that?
Dont know if you can see what I'm talking about, but in the video, right after takeoff, you can see my shoulders and my torso leaning back. I think this is because i dont loosen up my top shoulder, wut do you think?

http://media.putfile.com/136-i-know-keep-swinging

[ADTF Academy]

Actually not a bad jump.


Your plant is late, but that is more to do with your pole carry mechanics.


Half way down the runway your pole tip is way to low. You allow your hand to drop below your elbow this will cause tension on your shoulders.


As you plant the issue really comes together. your hands drift towards the box in an attempt to find the back of the box. This puts your hands out in front of you.

As you plant foot is about to touch the ground your already leaning backwards with your hands out infront of you. Not to mention when your foot actually hits the ground your plant is not all the way up above you. Your plant is late which explains the pulling action seen in the pic you showed.


The backwards lean you noticed was because your only on a 13 foot pole. Besides the late plant it is actually a good planting position.

The issue you have is that your knee drive is too steep. As you fold later in the swing the knees should aim to inbetween the hand and elbow of the top arm. As it stands you have a decent swing and then fold to much. Swing and then extend into inversion. This is why your shoulder do not get all the way down. You have a passive moment when you bring your knees to your chest when it is not needed.


I really like the position you maintain later in the vault though. You do a very nice job staying tight to the pole all the way through your turn.


What size pole is that. Do you have anything stiffer? Have you tried anything longer? Your ready for the next level man.

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Wow you and I agree on so many things, analyzing this video is just amazing. My pole lowering skills are lacking, I've been trying to work on keeping my left hand from dropping too much. What u see in the video is actually an upgrade from my old left hand dropping below the waist carry. Plant is a little late right again. What I dont see is how my hands are drifting towards the box, can you elaborate more about this part? I also see myself leaning back a little at takeoff, but I hope that this is more like trying to be as tall at takeoff as possible. I do need to relax my drive knee after the initial jump, so I can use it more in my swing. When you say that i fold too much, do you mean that I can just drop my shoulders earlier? I definitely see the passive moment at the top, that's what I really didnt like about it. As for the turn, that's the part that I've actually been trying to work on now. I am staying tight to the pole which is good. I dont think that I really swung, or extended with my body past vertical, so my feet were too far away from the pole to keep them from dropping, though my upper body was close to the pole. The pole is a 14'150, we do have a 14'6 150, but I got rejected by it. Its on video, but I dont have it, its pretty entertaining.

[ADTF Academy]

What I dont see is how my hands are drifting towards the box, can you elaborate more about this part?

Watch as you transition into your last right step. YOu will notice your left hand straightens or almost straightens. With a normal grip (at least normal in my terms) when that arm straightens it will pull the top arm forward infront of your chin. What this causes is torque on your hands and your body must counter this by reaching with your foot. Hence part of the reason for the backwards lean.

I also see myself leaning back a little at takeoff, but I hope that this is more like trying to be as tall at takeoff as possible. .

Any backwards lean is a braking motion. When the foot lands out front like you are doing it causes your speed at that instant to decline. Being tall means as tall as you can be straight up. As it stands leaning backwards is not being tall your losing energy and your not as tall as you could be. I am not sure how you think that means being tall with a backwards lean. Your trying to go up and in not back and down.

I do need to relax my drive knee after the initial jump, so I can use it more in my swing. When you say that i fold too much, do you mean that I can just drop my shoulders earlier? I definitely see the passive moment at the top, that's what I really didnt like about it.

You lead knee at takeoff and during the inital part of the swing is fine. Watch as your hips move to parallel to the ground and then as the pass the imaginary horizontal line using yoru shoulders as the mark. It is here that I am talking about. Your overdriving your knee to your chest when you can now begin moving to an extended position by aiming your knee drive and extension of the lead knee towards your top hand as your trail leg continues to meet up with your lead knee. This will allow your hips to continue to raise so you get rid of the passive moment of knee to chest. The hips don't raise why would you want this. It would also aid in your ability to get your shoulders down earlier. As it stands you can't cause your hips are staying down. If your hips are pressing down how can your shoulders press down. Your hips must be raising for your shoulders to be allowed to drop.

As for the turn, that's the part that I've actually been trying to work on now. I am staying tight to the pole which is good. I dont think that I really swung, or extended with my body past vertical, so my feet were too far away from the pole to keep them from dropping, though my upper body was close to the pole.

The issue is this from what I see. Your doing so many things pretty good except for the late extension. So by the time you get into position and make your quarter turn and stay tight to the pole. Watch the pole it is already unbent.

Simply put you didn't beat it. It beat you. With an earlier extension and getting rid of that passive moment when you bring your knee to your chest your almost there. You will beat the pole to inversion and get a little more BLOW as many put it. I would concentrate on that extension and the rest will take care of itself.

The pole is a 14'150, we do have a 14'6 150, but I got rejected by it. Its on video, but I dont have it, its pretty entertaining.

Your plant mechanics are costing you from getting on the next poles. I would recommend finding a 155 and 160 and try those as you fix your mechanics. Work on your carrying mechanics and getting that backward lean out of your plant. Get that plant up earlier and be tall vertically no lean and I have no doubt you will move poles very quickly. Than move to the 14'6 and 15's.


By the way I expect the check in the mail. Thats probaly a hour and a half session. hope this helps.

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Seriously dude that was some harcore coaching. But an hour and a half? lol did it really take that long? I'm jumping in a couple hours from now, We'll see how it goes.

[ADTF Academy]

Well didn't take that long to type, but to actually coach all that 1.5 hours to explain then weeks or months to get it right.

[vault3rb0y]

Well didn't take that long to type, but to actually coach all that 1.5 hours to explain then weeks or months to get it right.

took 1 month to get it, and its been 3 months still working on getting it better!

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Lol, we'll see how long it takes. I got on a 14' 155 today on a fast runway, it was feeling pretty good, I probably didnt perfectly improve anything that we talked about, but I think a lot of things were better. I've seen the videos, they look pretty good.

[difallstar]

i like ur pic, its a geat take off . just keep ur head foward instead of throwing it back. that will help u penetrate more, and get u blowin through poles.