What is a late plant?

[agapit]

Two points -both made by Petrov a long time ago, may help to clarify this important issue.

First he stated "The plant begins with the first step of the run up" . This is a restatement of the totally integrated nature of his model but also reflects the fact that most Petrov/Bubka model athletes do begin a gradual lowering of the pole from its initial very high position , on the very first step.

However more important is his notion that the pole should essentially be in position for take off as the athlete moves onto the penultimate step. So by definition if the pole is not there at that point the athlete is 'planting' late -and this in turn suggests that they have started to move the pole into position for the take off too late -or to turn it around - not soon enough.

Finally remember that the 'plant' is only a means of moving the pole from an efficient carry position into an efficient position for an upspringing take off. One of the key indicators of the effectiveness of the Petrov Bubka model is that athletes who employ it effectively continue to accelerate through the last five metres while most athletes who do not tend to decelerate during that phase.

Thought for the day - perhaps even the week. "Wisdom can come from any place,from any time in history and in any language."

nice addition thanks

[agapit]

dude... your picture is kindof freaky... it's like i'm getting stared at while reading

look in the left eye

[Mecham]

dude... your picture is kindof freaky... it's like i'm getting stared at while reading

look in the left eye

My left or your left?

[agapit]

dude... your picture is kindof freaky... it's like i'm getting stared at while reading

look in the left eye

My left or your left?

that is the question.

[agapit]

From this perspective, I guess "dump planters," individuals who literally drop their pole from near vertical into the box and jump, must have the latest possible plant. Which is why no one should ever do that.

That does not follow. The measure of whether a plant is late is whether it was completed on time, not when it was started. If you carry your pole near vertical it will take longer to drop, so the drop must be started sooner than someone who carries it more horizontal. If they start it on time, it will not be late. There are advantages to carrying the pole more vertical and if you want to make use of those, you simply have to adjust when you start your drop in order to avoid a "late plant".

This is a good analysis.

However, because the drop time is a constant for a particular pole height carry, the late plant timeliness depends on the beginning of the drop when using the free drop plant) hence, the late plant equals the late beginning of the drop.

The distinction is important for training purposes. Unless you are going to adjust athlete’s pole carry height you must recommend to the athlete to start the drop earlier to avoid the late plant.

So in the athlete’s mind the late plant should equal the late start of the drop.

in addition

When Petrov says that the plant starts from the first step he probably means the psychological preparation to the plant. There is no evidence that the actual tip drop begins from the first step, and if it does than it is not a free drop. Because in a free drop it would take much less time for the tip to rich the ground than for an athlete to reach the box.

[nipger]

wow i'm having problems with a late plant and i NEVER thought of it that way.

[agapit]

wow i'm having problems with a late plant and i NEVER thought of it that way.

well now you know the rest of the story