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Hey all,
Here is a really accurate, simple way to calculate velocities. This model was made by Peter Mcginnis, the biomechanist for USATF.
First, You need a video camera and 6 cones. Measure 5 meters from the box, and place a cone on each side of the runway, now do the same thing with 10 meters and 15 meters. Now just have your coach film your vaults so the cones are easily visible.
Now is where it gets a little tricky. You need to know if your VCR is a 30hz or a 60 hz. Find that out, then pop your tape in the VCR and hit play! Prior to hitting the 15m mark start frame advancing (slow mo) As soon as your center of gravity breaks the plane of the two cones, count the next frame (one) count every frame until your center of gravity passes the 10m cone. The number that you get represents a certain time span on either the 30hz or the 60hz VCR. Each frame on a 30hz represents 1/30th of a second (.0333seconds) or 1/60th of a second (.0167 seconds.)
So basically for the 30hz: time=frames counted x 1/30thseconds=frames counted (divided by) 30. The same can be done with the 60hz, except you replace the numbers with 60! So that is how it works, now here is a simler way to apply it. I wont post the whole thing, just from 8mps to 10mps. That should give some of yall some insight,
For a 60hz over a 5m distance
Frames-Velcoity
37.5=8mps
37=8.11
36.5=8.22
36=8.33
35.5=8.45
35=8.57
34.5=8.7
34=8.82
33.5=8.96
33=9.09
32.5=9.23
32=9.38
31.5=9.52
31=9.68
30.5=9.84
30=10mps
When you get a number like 30.5, what happens is your COG has passed the midline of the cones, take your frames counted number and subtract .5 to accomadate.
For a 30hz VCR
frames-velocity
19=7.89
18.5=8.11
18=8.33
17.5=8.57
17=8.82
16.5=9.09
16=9.38
15.5=9.68
15=10.00
This model was first taught to my Mr Lonestar, it is derived directly from the work of Dr. Peter Mcginnis. If there are any confusions, let me know.
JOMRUS, I have not been jumping recently. I was jumping better than I ever had 3 weeks ago.
Geoff Fairbanks
Here is a really accurate, simple way to calculate velocities. This model was made by Peter Mcginnis, the biomechanist for USATF.
First, You need a video camera and 6 cones. Measure 5 meters from the box, and place a cone on each side of the runway, now do the same thing with 10 meters and 15 meters. Now just have your coach film your vaults so the cones are easily visible.
Now is where it gets a little tricky. You need to know if your VCR is a 30hz or a 60 hz. Find that out, then pop your tape in the VCR and hit play! Prior to hitting the 15m mark start frame advancing (slow mo) As soon as your center of gravity breaks the plane of the two cones, count the next frame (one) count every frame until your center of gravity passes the 10m cone. The number that you get represents a certain time span on either the 30hz or the 60hz VCR. Each frame on a 30hz represents 1/30th of a second (.0333seconds) or 1/60th of a second (.0167 seconds.)
So basically for the 30hz: time=frames counted x 1/30thseconds=frames counted (divided by) 30. The same can be done with the 60hz, except you replace the numbers with 60! So that is how it works, now here is a simler way to apply it. I wont post the whole thing, just from 8mps to 10mps. That should give some of yall some insight,
For a 60hz over a 5m distance
Frames-Velcoity
37.5=8mps
37=8.11
36.5=8.22
36=8.33
35.5=8.45
35=8.57
34.5=8.7
34=8.82
33.5=8.96
33=9.09
32.5=9.23
32=9.38
31.5=9.52
31=9.68
30.5=9.84
30=10mps
When you get a number like 30.5, what happens is your COG has passed the midline of the cones, take your frames counted number and subtract .5 to accomadate.
For a 30hz VCR
frames-velocity
19=7.89
18.5=8.11
18=8.33
17.5=8.57
17=8.82
16.5=9.09
16=9.38
15.5=9.68
15=10.00
This model was first taught to my Mr Lonestar, it is derived directly from the work of Dr. Peter Mcginnis. If there are any confusions, let me know.
JOMRUS, I have not been jumping recently. I was jumping better than I ever had 3 weeks ago.
Geoff Fairbanks
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I can't help it, I have to post this one. When I was jumping in college (only a couple of years ago), the two fastest off the track were me (10.6 100 meters) and faster than me: Russ Buller ( 10.35 100 meters). I'll guarantee he's still the fastest in the United States.
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indeed, buller has run some amazing times. including a 10.50 in HS. bryan hunter, jeremy scott and most tall vaulters like hartwig dont look that fast, but they are covering a lot of ground.
i once anchored a 4x1 "B" team here at USC that ran 40.71. buller is the fastest vaulter on the track, but i m sure the other 3 legs on his relay team held their own
however, i feel there is a significance difference of runway speed and sprinting. ive jumped 5.20m. i should be jumping higher than i have, but i have some bad habits throughout my take-off.
some elite vaulters run faster with a pole than without. most HS guys and most girls in general run faster on the track because carrying a pole is so akward.
thanks for the mcginnis info SWTvault, that is good stuff. and very accurate.
i once anchored a 4x1 "B" team here at USC that ran 40.71. buller is the fastest vaulter on the track, but i m sure the other 3 legs on his relay team held their own

however, i feel there is a significance difference of runway speed and sprinting. ive jumped 5.20m. i should be jumping higher than i have, but i have some bad habits throughout my take-off.
some elite vaulters run faster with a pole than without. most HS guys and most girls in general run faster on the track because carrying a pole is so akward.
thanks for the mcginnis info SWTvault, that is good stuff. and very accurate.
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thanks for the mcginnis info SWTvault, that is good stuff. and very accurate.
No problem. I think every vaulter should know how to calculate their velocites. It gives us a good guideline as to where are weaknesses lie. Personally, doing the velocites helped me a great deal in my training this year.
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